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Shhhhh - dont let the secret out about Arrowhead! - Signed, an Arrowhead resident

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Your comment of "I know this and you know this, but the masses don’t know this" is always surprisingly true. Whenever someone makes a comment about "well _obviously_ everyone knows about Epic/Ikon/Indy" I always use my parent's as a litmus test: they've been skiing Winter Park as their home mountain for decades, and have always purchased 4-packs through some sports store that offered them for $250 one weekend out of the year. Well, when that sports store didn't offer the discount this year, I mentioned the Ikon 4-pack for $400 (they had never heard of Ikon before), to the reaction of "that's so expensive, why even bother?"

Given how expensive WP day tickets have been ($189 was the last number I recall seeing), I'd be surprised if they even go skiing this year once they see those prices.

In other news, Vail's marketing department always surprises me with how terrible it is (especially whoever designs the content on their near-worthless cookie-cutter websites for all of their resorts). All of their information / advertising seems centered around you _already knowing_ what they're trying to advertise. This can be easily seen in Epic vs Ikon pass websites: Epic has descriptions for their resorts as useless as "More Excitement. More Memories. More of What Makes Park City the One." (what's that even supposed to mean?), whereas Ikon has full page descriptions loaded with stoke-filled images that actually describe the resort and why you would want to go there.

Anyway, what reminded me of this was your link to Vail's "Turn in Your Ticket" program---this is the first time I've ever heard of this, and I thought I did a fairly thorough job exploring the Epic pass website. I was looking at a day-trip to Vail in March, but when I saw the insane day ticket prices I decided to wait until I could get a 4-pack this summer and go next year. Had they advertised that program, I almost certainly would have gone to Vail in March instead of A-Basin (which had $90 lift tickets that weekend). I.e., the definition of a lost sale due to due poor marketing.

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